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Post  Guest on Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:19 pm

Epic money! Cant get much better then this!
runewomen Today at 8:16 pm

.money making guide and Great flipping tips and hints!

Epic money making guide here for the members of gerises.

Section 1:What is Flipping?

Flipping: Purchasing an item for a lower price with the intention of selling it for a higher price, generally within the same update. It is also known as short-term investing and takes advantage of shifts within the price for an item over the course of a day.

Requirements: A minimum of 3-4 million gp, otherwise you may be better off mining pure essence as far as money-making per hour. sums other than this are good if you plan on increasing your wealth and wish to practice, or if you simply wish to do it for fun.


The advantages of flipping over investing is that flipping makes more money per day, sometimes 2-3x as much as a person investing with the same amount of money. The reason for this is that in investing making 5% in a day is considered fantastic. Before I started doing slayer I was averaging 6% on days that I was on runescape. A few percent might not sound like a lot, but it was enough at the time that my average money made was the same as my friend who had 3x as much money. I recently started flipping again and boosted my average to 9%, with one 3-day span where I had a 30% gain in net worth. Flipping also gives you a higher level of liquidity, meaning that it is easier to get your money out and use it for skills or combat.

An investor with 10mil making 5% per day, essentially the max, will end up with 43.2 mil after 30 days. The same flipper, making an impressive 8% per day would have 100.6mil,almost 3 times the profit.


Finding good flipping items can be very time intensive. Whenever I find good flipping items, i try to keep it to myself you should do the same.

Section 2: Flipping Method's and Strategies

Unlike investing, flipping profits can occur both when the item is going up, or down. Flipping when an item is going down is called reverse flipping, while flipping when an item is going up is called standard flipping. Standard flipping is generally the more profitable of the two, but only when done properly.

Standard Flipping

For Standard flipping, your best choice would be an item that is going up at about 2-3% per day, you should attempt to do 2 flips per day, with one occuring in between updates, and the other purchasing before the update, but selling after the update for that additional 2%. If done properly this strategy can yield 11-12% per day. The advantage with this is the higher profit margins, but it is generally more difficult to purchase the items. Note that these percentages assume that you can use all of your money without hitting the limit. purchase slightly above mid, sell slightly below max.

Middle Flipping

This works only on an item that has the Wisconsin graph; mostly flat with some slight fluctuations. The purchasing price should be about 2% below mid, and the selling point 2% above mid. If you believe that the item varies more or less than that per day, you should change your buying and selling points appropriately.

Reverse Flipping

Your best choice here would be an item that is going down 2-3% per day and aim to always sell before the next great exchange update. 2 flips per day should be your goal and, if done properly, will average about 8% per day. The items are generally easier to buy, which makes up for the additional risk. Purchase slightly above min, sell slightly below mid.


Tip #1 Find an item that you can make money on and stick with it. The better you know the market, the higher your profit margins. This doesnt mean that you shouldn't look for new items, your item may get crashed by manipulators.

Tip #2 Do something else when you flip. Don't stand at the Grand Exchange watching all of your needles come in, do that new quest, or get that prayer level you've always know you want it....

Tip #3 Dont purchase at significant points such as min, mid, max, or round numbers. A lot of other people do that too, so you will get your items faster if you add that 3,372gp onto that 500k item.

Tip #4 Dont ask me or other people in the chat what to flip. You will probably be the 312th person to do so that day, and it gets annoying.

Tip #5 Be patient. If your item does not sell right away, it is probably due to the 4 hour restrictions. If it's been a few hours and none of your items have sold, then think about adjusting the price. It should also take roughly 10 minutes to buy/sell the full limit of an item.

Tip #6 If you dont feel like guessing the price, stagger the range you believe the item inhabits with guesses about .5% apart and leave it for 10 mins. The lowest/highest that buys should be your purchasing/selling point.

Tip #7 If you have 2 items that are good flipping options, and each could occupy all of your money without running into barriers, start buying the second one once the first ones are selling. This way you save 4 hours of time waiting for the sell-buy restrictions to be done.

Section 3:The Grand Exchange, Your Friend (Sometimes)

The Grand Exchange has many features that will are designed to prevent manipulations. If you know of any that are not listed here, I would appreciate it if you would post here what they are.

Price floors and ceilings: These are levels above or below which a price cannot go, they are most noticed in items like Gold ore, which has a price floor of 180 gp.

Number Limits: all items have a certain number which is the most that you can buy in 4 hours. Listed at the end of the guide are some examples.

Unknown selling/buying points: Unlike w2, where you can see at a glance what people are offering at the moment for an item, the G.E. does not tell you what the last person who bought a whip paid for it. The only way to find out what it is is to put an offer in at max and see how much you get back, a sometimes risky strategy and an lways unreliable one.

However, the Grand exchange is still great to use to flip items because the Grand exchange does most of the work for you. Instead of standing in one place for several hours selling things, you can simply put them in the Great exchange and go skill for several hours.

Section 4: Selecting an item

Selecting a Group of Items

There is no one group of items that is best for flipping. I have flipped runes, essence, logs, ore, weapons, armour, pouches, sets and even some yew roots. Discovering which items work best for you requires a decent amount of guesswork, as well as some trial-and-error the end result is worth it however, as there are massive quantities of money to be made. Make sure the items that you select can use up, or close to, as much as you want to use on flipping.

Looking at and Evaluating Graph's

Looking at graph's is the first stage. There are several different kinds of graph's that you will see, but you must be in 30-Day mode. This section will explain what each of these graph's look like, as well as what that means about the flippability of an item. The ratings are from 0-5. If you find other graph's, please post here so that I can add to this list.

Steps Down/Up

These graph's show a 4-5% increase/decrease every few days, with no increase in the day's in between. They are poor choices for investment, as well as flipping. The fact that they go up so much but not often means that they will be difficult to get, and the percentage increase per day will be poor.

Cliff Up

This graph is rising 4-5% per day, in the past, there has been no significant variation in the prices. Unless this item has been the subject of an update recently, it is most likely a manipulation. If it has been the subject of an update, it is ok for investment, if you can get it, but poor for flipping due to the difficulty buying. It may be risky, so be careful.

Cliff Down

Same as previous graph, but horrible for everything and dropping. STAY AWAY! I sadly once lost 13mil on one of these (I thought that it was going to go up...darn you top hats)


This graph is currently going up, but has only recently started doing so after a long fall. This graph is ideal for investors and good for flippers, but flippers must watch to see if the item still buys in an acceptable time frame. If the increase remains shallow, you may be able to flip this item successfully for a very long time.

Hilly Slope Down

This graph has a general shallow downwards trend of about 1% per day, but occasionally peaks upwards for about 4 days before resuming its downwards trajectory. This item is ideal for reverse flipping during the days where it goes down, and regular flipping when it is going up. Obviously horrible for investment,

Hilly Slope Up

Same as previous, but general trend is upwards. Good for long term investment, and great for flipping.

Ocean Waves

This graph has a rather significant deviation, about 10-20% that is stays within, but moves in in a wave-like pattern. This graph generally has a rather slow increase of about 1-3% over the course of 4-6 days. This is ideal for flipping at all times, except for at the peaks and the troughs, and a decent investment.

Dead Man

This item has little or no movement in the last 30 days, this is the most interesting/difficult graph because the graph could be fantastic, horrible, or anywhere in between. If the item is not moving because it has reached a price floor or ceiling, it is horrible. Otherwise, it could be flipped for 10%.

this graph fluctuates very small amounts(around 1-2% total) frequently changes direction(sometimes every day/every other day) it is fantastic for middle flipping, and horrible for pretty much everything else.

Example:Black d'hide body

Section 5

In case of emergency, Pull HERE

This section is in case your flip fails. Each of these situations has their own level of hazard ranging from the annoying to the catastrophic. Note that these are general situations and the advice may not work for you.

Item Fails to Purchase

Usually this means that the price that you have selected is too low. If this is true simply raise the price by about 1%.

However, sometimes you get the "kiss of death". When your order goes in, you instantly purchase ONE of the item for absolute minimum. You will not be able to purchase any more for a while. The time limit is unknown, as is what triggers it. If there is another item that you flip, you should start that one if possible.

All Items Immediately Purchase

This is not necessarily a bad thing. If this happens, do not panic, if the item is crashing, 15 minutes wont matter. Go to the graph and evaluate it and determine whether it was a fluke investor dropping out, or a possible shift in the direction the item is going. Other things that might help include checking the forums and talking to fellow investors.

This is most likely to happen in volatile items (items that shift direction quickly and without warning), if your item is not one of those, it was probably just a fluke investor.

Item Declines

If you are doing a Standard flip and your item starts to decline by a small percentage, an immediate analysis must take place. If the graph is of the Mountain type, immediately sell the item for as much as you can get(min if necessary). If it is a Hill or Ocean Wave graph, sell the item slighly under mid price and consider reverse flipping it.

If it declines by a large percentage (4-5%) put it in the G.E. for minimum and run around yelling for an appropriate period of time.

Item Fails to Sell

In most cases this means that you are asking for slightly too much. Lower your asking price by an appropriate amount and it should sell. Evaluate as to whether it may start declining

Great Exchange Limits:

Logs, ores, runes and flax

Raw fish

Ashes, ore and bars, soft clay, hides, bones, food, herbs, potions, vials, spirit shards, arrow and bolt supplies and product, feathers, bowstrings, bows(u)

Gems, Jewelry, talismans, teletabs, seeds and finished bows.


100 battlestaves, "common" armour and weapons(and sets) and flatpacks

Barrows, godwars and dragon items

Treasure Trail items and discontinued items

Not complete-examples soon

Anything i should add? Send me a pm or leave me a note


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Post  zonic on Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:15 pm

good guide

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